Everyone can agree on this album: Dactah Chando Meets Umberto Echo: "Guardian of Dub" (Achinech Productions). It corresponds to the ideal of good Dubs: Hand-played, superbly produced, inspired mixed, beautiful bass melodies and classic arrangements. Not surprising, after all, Umberto Echo is responsible for it. He has picked the cherry on the cake from the complete oeuvre of Dactahs - in which he himself has a share of two albums - and gedubbt what his mixer gave. Top quality, as usual from Mr. Echo, no question about it. But I have to add quite heretically: It might also have a shade less of the “good” Dub-Taste "can be. A little more oblique, a little rougher, a little deeper maybe?
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A heretic is someone who has been completely unjustly pushed into the wrong corner by a completely insane power elite. It will take the Pope and the Church about 4000 years before I forgive this shit. And during this time they have to be charitable. (Oops, that sounds very self-confident to me now).
Anyway, I'll be a heretic too, because the album was a bit too lax for me.
"A little weird, a little rougher, maybe a little deeper?" ...... I would put it a little more radically:
The disc should sound stoned !!! Apparently they all had nothing clever to smoke (?) ……………… lemmi
Umberto Echo is a very conservative and clean working (Dub-) Mixer, and I think that's a good thing because he has almost a unique position with it (the other would be Guido Craveiro).
I mean Umberto Echo once made an attempt to mix it up rougher / dirtier - Dub Spencer & Trance Hill's "Too Big To Fail" album. So big is the title, so bad the album mix. Unfortunately.
To be honest, I don't think “too big to fail” is particularly “dirty”. Still, I like the album a lot, like everything from before Dub Spencer and Trance Hill. Just don't give the impression that I have something against Umberto Echo. I also think Chando is absolutely great but his riddims are not all bursting with primal power
of reggae and that is for me the main reason why I for example on this Dub Disk does not come off completely.
I actually always agree with Umberto Echo's mix and I've also had the opportunity to tell him personally how much it enriches my life. But every now and then he could “freak out” a bit like Edmund did on the “Deep Dive” Dub". Anyway, I need something like that more often.
Working clean is always good, but for political reasons I don't want him to be conservative ;-)
So now I have to see who Guido Craveiro is. I probably don't know his full name for a long time.
"Greetings, my name is Alborosi"… oh no, I am …………… .. lemmi
Nuja, lemmi ... give yourself the snare on "Too Big To Fail" ... unusually dirty for an Umberto Echo.
Craveiro has made a wonderful album called "I don't like Reggae" - where he played German hits (I call it that, although others would strictly deny it) in reggae versions incl. Dubs convicted. Sounds strange, but it's very well done. Other audio samples: albums by Dubxanne, Delle, Dacta Chando etc.
I'll take the snare on “Too Big To Fail” as my homework. I just checked out the medley for the disc on YouTube and was thrilled again. The summary gave me the impression that Umberto is doing really well here (for my taste!). But now we have drifted a little. René wrote: “A little weird, a little rougher, a little deeper maybe?” I wanted to go one better with “stoned”. It is also important to me how the snare comes across, but even more important to me is the Dub the buttons and sliders get almost no respite. It has to be constantly up and down, in and out, forwards, backwards overhead and then all at once and so on ... .. The full mixer action !!!
You might describe this as "overproduced" (which may be an insinuation now, if so, sorry for that) while I have to admit that this word is in my vocabulary in relation to Dub and music in general doesn't even exist. I've heard the word “overproduced” here before, but to be honest, I've never really understood what you actually mean by it. Dub is so diverse for me. I actually like everyone Dub and if I were to walk into a room where “Guardiens of Dub"Runs, I would say
"Cool Mucke Das" but for example with "Too Big To Fail" I would say "Wow, that's really crazy".
Well, we or I or we are counting the peas again. But just "ThumbsUp" or "ThumbsDown" is at fazzebuck ... ..
I do not deny the "German hits" in the slightest ………. lemmi
I've heard the word “overproduced” here before, but to be honest, I've never really understood what you actually mean by it.
I really like Groundation and with "Dub Wars ”is all true, but“ Each One Dub One “is just too much of a good thing. This is my prime example of “overproduced”.
spot on, Ras Vorbei!
I agree ! Since the term came up before! Then in “Each One Dub One ”and was immediately so bored that I no longer did that to myself. But not because it sounds "overproduced", but massively "underproduced" ;-)
So you notice, I still can't do anything with the term. So do I have to go back to this one Dub-Disc to possibly get it after all, or to learn. After all, the vocal disc is also called “Each One Teach One”. But that's really like working, nothing more to do with enjoyment.
"Dub Wars “is really big for me DubMovie theater !!!!! …………… .. lemmi
How should I describe it, sometimes less is more. It doesn't have to rattle, rattle, echo, reverb and bling bling bling all over the place.
“How should I describe it, sometimes less is more. It doesn't have to rattle, rattle, echo, reverb and bling bling bling "
That only worked for Paul 'Groucho' Smykle. He punched out and hit the wall as much as possible ... and it was great!
@EachOne Dub One: Totally nonsensical and superfluous. What has the Dub Mixerr only thought about it ... Echo en masse in nonsensical places by a long way doesn’t Dub.
Dub Wars is conservative and very reserved and maybe that's why it has so much depth and class. I can't remember, but I mean Jim Fox was involved ...?
@What did the Dub Mixer only thought of ...
Greetings
I go further, not just the mixer ...
Harrison Stafford is a very intelligent person and hopefully he has not gone deaf. So far he has released really good albums, also solo. Just think of Rockamovya, it's all there Dub, Roots, ska, jazz, funk and pop. With Groundation he always has the limits of reggae or Dub's purposefully sounded out. I can only say I don't understand his politics. If I take Harrison Stafford's place with “Each One Dub One “would have heard for the first time even after mixing, I would have sent the mixer into the desert immediately because of absolute ineptitude and would never have sold this work. Such a release only annoys your fans.
I couldn't have put it better Ras Vorbei. The vocal album "Each One Teach One" is also rather awful in terms of sound. To be fair, I would like to mention that back then (2001 I mean) the line-up of the band, the mixer and probably the studio were different. The remaster release hasn't changed that either. The album is just a sign of the times when the band haven't found their sound and themselves right, I mean.
No comparison to “A Miracle”, which is also great in terms of sound ... Masterpiece.
All right, I think I've got it now. Especially the first one Dub from “each one dub one “sounds like I just turn the reverb control to full at home and run the whole tune with it. There is hardly any DubMixing takes place.
I find it interesting that this one DubAccident shows that Dub is a real art that not everyone has mastered.
Not every Dulli can sit down at a mixing desk and only through blunt application of the technical possibilities
good (tasty) gourmetDub or at all Dub to produce. This also takes a lot of love and enthusiasm for the details in reggae and in music in general. Of course, I don't need to tell you that, but I always think, maybe a living being from the mainstream gets lost here because he or she has noticed that through some strange coincidence Dub yes actually the non + ultra when it comes to music !!!
But with Groundation we're back to a topic where I could write little novels again ... (I'll try to be very short and sweet).
I got to know them with “Hebron Gate” and Groundation doesn't get anything close to this record. However, they outdid themselves with Rockamovya ;-) I also bought the other records from the time before, but I couldn't get as much enthusiasm for the two records even though I looked at them "blindly" (like as they say) bought. I wasn't that enthusiastic about “Here I am” and “Building In Ark” was the last record I bought from Groudation. I just think it's bad! I would also like to say that I was able to experience a super monkey tit-horny mega concert by Groundation in Berlin - with a percussionist from Latin America who flashed me almost as much as Skully. Other concerts followed Summerjams, but then it slowly became clear to me that at festivals almost all concerts were delivered on the assembly line. That was just a copy of the concert in Berlin. Festivals are finished like the capitalist financial system !!!
Obviously, Stafford also noticed that Groundation was no longer able to produce good riddims and then, with Jamaicans and not least with Braindamage, again delivered very good intangible world cultural heritage.
You can probably see everything differently but my name is not Pato Banten, but this is my opinion!
"I do not sniff the coke, I only smoke Sensimilia" …………………… lemmi
I am aware that we are again miles away from the basic topic.
The new Groundation album is one of the albums from last year that really flashed me. Compared to older Groundation albums it has a few weaknesses, or rather, it sounds a bit strange because Groundation is breaking new ground. But the more I hear the part, the better it gets. Measured against what else comes onto the market, “The Next Generation” is above average.
I have to point out one title on the CD because it gave me goose bumps the first time I listened to it and it touched me deeply, the talk is of “New Life”.
A Californian writes such a text while Trump and his troubled supporters want to build a wall in the southern United States. Respect!!!
They still exist, the conscious lyrics. This “New Life” alone justifies the purchase and recommendation of this work for me.
Ok, “The Next Generation” is guitar-heavy, but I'm someone who grew up with heavy guitar sounds (Hendix, Clapton, Santana etc.) and maybe I like the album, or maybe because of that.
Babylon by Bus was also criticized at the time for being too guitar-heavy. These two LPs are outstanding after over 40! Years but still.
Sample: New Life, Fossil Fuels, Father & Child
Stay tuned
The more guitars the better :)
What, or rather: who I sorely miss in “The Next Generation” is Marcus Urani.
They actually voted Jimmy Hendrix best of the best of the best!
Have they never heard of Al Anderson? ……………… lemmi
(oh, oh that's headwind)
Very thin ice cream, lemmi ;-)
Just Jimi Hendix's “Star Spangled Banner” in Woodstock and Santana's full acid show, unbelievable
All right Ras Vorbei !
From your wink I can tell that I can "irritate" you a little more ;-)
You don't seem so dogged to see it and that's why I think (for fun but not without a serious background)
on the other hand. First of all, I would like to say that this is only a matter of my subjective perception and that I cannot really judge whether someone is good or bad at playing guitar.
I oppose this:
Al Anderson: Guitar solo "The Headen" on Babylon By Bus !!!
Al Anderson with a guitar solo on "Jamming" on one of the many other live records (I'm too lazy to name it more precisely)
Al Anderson: "Lively Up Yourself" on Babylon By Bus !!!
Al Anderson with every other guitar solo on Babylon By Bus !!!
.... and then there is a guitar solo on “Captured Live” (Peter Tosh) “Rastafari Is” !!!
(Not by Al Anderson but one of the best guitar solos I've ever heard)
Then there is the guitarist from I JAH Man, one with the ITALS (formerly) and a few more….
I am now also writing this here out of hope, because you may even be able to help me further.
The Itals once had a band at the start with a guitarist who likes every hard rocker like a pack of muesli…. oh no, the pack of muesli wasn't bad at all, as we could see ...... like a pack of mushy raisins. I have or had (?) A really bad concert recording of it on cassette. I think it was a 15 minute tune with about half of the overdue guitar solo ……. so nothing against Jimi Hendrix but I just haven't heard anything cool from him …….
Yeah, it's like school again. Everything is “more interesting” than the actual topic that the teacher has given.
In this sense ………………… lemmi
“I think it was a 15 minute tune with about half the unearthly guitar solo ……. "
Now I forgot to ask the question:
So if there is actually a live record from somewhere and you know about it, please don't let me die so stupidly.
Give Thanx ................ lemmi
hi lemmi,
take the time factor into account, what Hendrix achieved with his hitherto unique way of playing guitar would lead too far here and bore many. I'll put it in my own words, Jimi Hendrix had a unique fingering technique, he struck the strings with his left hand and played with the finger at the same time. The strings were stretched to the limit, the amplifiers were turned up to the limit to allow for more extreme distortions. Hendrix wrapped the low E-string around the tuning pegs in the opposite direction and and and ... .. (I could do this page by page)
With Hendrix (1966 !!!) that was pure manual work / dexterity and absolute mastery of the instrument. Up to this point no one had coaxed such sounds out of his guitar. I can remember an excerpt from a film from Jimi Hendrix's first appearance in London. Eric Clapton, the Beatles as well as Pete Townshend are standing with open mouths in the audience because of the incredible performance. Look at Janis Joplin's stunned face at Jimi's gig in Monterey.
Jimi Hendrix is and remains the best guitarist who has ever set foot on this blue planet. Have a look around guitarists, that is and remains a fact!
Today every dumbass can elicit this guitar sound from his guitar, but only because the technology allows it.
But now the subject is over!
"Now is the end of the subject!"
It's a shame but it's ok ;-)
@ lemmi: When “Building An Ark” is the last Groundation album you heard, please give “A Miracle” a chance. It's a great and imo the best Groundation album out there. Great sound, excellent songwriting.
I was at the Vienna concert of the “A Miracle” tour and you could really feel how bad the mood in the band was ... no joy in playing, you didn't look at each other, no smile, nothing. Really disturbing in contrast to earlier concerts where the pure joy of playing shone from the stage. The separation was not long in coming: (((
@ GTKritz:
All right ;-) ……… .. just in case. if a good reggae album is going to slip my way, they should get their chance.
I quote Lee “Scratch“ Perry or was it just Hot Chokolate ?! .... "I believe in Miracles" …………. lemmi
To conclude the topic with Groundation for the time being, I say, yes, I “reflected” everything again and came to the conclusion that “A Miracle” really has a very good sound (but Hebron Gate / Rockamovya among others also has; -)). Such statements from me like, "Building in Ark" I just find bad, "come from the fact that my cup sometimes simply overflows and I suffer from oversaturation every now and then. I can also hear “Building An Ark” well, as well as everything from Groundation.
Yes, everyone has their little preferences. “Hebron Gate” and “Rockamovya” remain my favorites from Groundation.
And not to forget "Dub Wars ". Nevertheless, the other records from Groundation will also be used again. The question just keeps coming back, where should I get all the time I'm horny for all of this
Need reggae discs.
Greetings …… .. lemmi
Greetings,
Thumbs up, lemmi… ..two !! ;-)
You really have to see it that way. We often complain about this or that little thing that bothers us on an album. Even this album, despite its small quirks, still stands out very positively from the mass of many releases.
Sometimes I feel like I'm in one too Dub-Tsunami, who literally overwhelms me and then you look for a hair in the soup that a bald man made.
René's statement in his article here: "a little weird, a little rougher, a little deeper perhaps?" Speaks volumes. We all whine at a very high level. Of course there is always better, but does it have to be?
Whenever there are such “Guardians Of Dub“As Umberto Echo would have given, then we wouldn't be over that much DubTripped trash.
Stay tuned
And then there is the matter of the form of the day! I remember, for example, that I put “In my fathers house” by Addis Pablo to the files as boring. Today I come back to my office, where “Deep In Dub"Is running as the foundation for a good working atmosphere and I'm thinking" ey dude! " what kind of awesome stuff is going on right now! ”and what was it? …………. "In My Fathers House" by Addis Pablo!
So you probably already think quite often “oh, what the lemmi always writes…. "I can only say," What do I care about my chatter from yesterday? "
I often say yes, basically I like everyone Dub and every ReggaeTune, but since there is so much and so much good to very good, I endeavor to find the creme de la creme and to limit myself to it. But that's really not that easy. Well and then there are still the small subtle differences between all reggae / DubHeads who very often have different ideas about what the “creme de la creme” is for them.
There are even “loads of” reggae fans who join in Dub nothing can start at all. I even know it personally.
Very lovable, nice people, but none of them Dub like ...... I often ask myself:
.... "What was it?" ………… .. lemmi
I, and that is my very personal opinion, say: “Only when you have understood reggae will you become Dub Fan".
Something like a higher level of incarnation
Let's see if someone can be lured out of the reserve ;-)
;-) ...