We have that again and again: sound engineers who use all their skills to recreate historical sounds. The master of them all could be Jim the Boss. He approached the matter purposefully and systematically in 2013, buried himself in his studio in New Jersey and tinkered with the sound until he succeeded in cloning the sound of reggae of the early 1970s almost perfectly. Not digitally, of course, but with nice, old, well-rounded analog studio equipment. Lo and behold, the world had been waiting for his reggae sound. Jim published the collection of his previous productions on the in 2016 Dub-Album "Hudson Soul" and stormed the genre charts on iTunes and Beatport. Now he adds "Dub in HiFi ”(Hudson Soul), and thus ties in with“ Hudson Soul ”. It's kind of logical that a retro sound can't make sense to develop further. In such cases, I am always enthusiastic about the mastery of craftsmanship of the retro fetishists, but not the aesthetic concept. Why record music that already exists? But here, I have to admit, I get weak: I don't like what Jim is doing, but I fell for him anyway. "Dub in HiFi “sounds terrific, nice and rough and edgy, contains tons of quotes that are really fun to track down and also offers wonderful melodies. Incidentally, the album is not available from any streaming service, but from Bandcamp it is free Download.
17 replies to "Jim the Boss: Dub in HiFi "
Sometimes one is happy about a new infusion of the familiar. Just as some people value the style of a director more than the individual film and are happy about every further Mafia epic by Scorcese, even if it is only to avoid having to watch the old films again and still relive the same feeling . I think everyone has their own motivation and every motivation is justified. Not exciting, but suitable for feeling good.
By the way, I really appreciate it when musicians don't follow the peer pressure of streaming services and instead rely on Bandcamp. One is a curse, the other a blessing - I think.
Monday morning Grummel Grummel ... ..
Curse or blessing or not… .. I don't care! Music that you cannot lie down at home, that you cannot understand and grasp, is forgotten faster than Bayern Munich's last victory. Music that is just floating around anonymously somewhere on the net mostly remains worthless and is quickly ignored. Right now that it's retro again Dub Discs are praised, my retro perspective and perception on this tiresome subject is top current again. I cannot develop a second opinion on this. Better than not at all, it just doesn't work for me this Monday morning.
"Dub I also really like “HiFi”, but it has seeped away in the “swamp of crime” or in the mud of music data and
Unfortunately, I ignore it because I simply don't get access to all of this downloading and also don't care about any mp3 music snippets. Loading Wafe files myself and then burning disks from them is no fun at all, and most computer discs don't play in normal CD players and so on and so on .......
I have nothing against development as long as it leads to an improvement in the quality of life but only listening to music from the computer is boring to me.
If it is the case that the disc rocks the i-tune charts after all, then a disc should be worth it.
So what's going on here ?! But here everything really goes down the drain.
So ... I've finished ! ……………………… lemmi
Hi,
I'll try to explain my point of view. Of course it's different when you can hold the album in your hands. My generation grew up with LPs and mostly had beautiful cover art to marvel at. Many covers from the 70s were true works of art and the size of the LP enabled the cover art artists to really let off steam. That all changed with the conversion to CD as the new, favored sound carrier format. I already had a problem with reducing the cover of an LP to CD format. Often the whole effect of the original was lost.
With the expansion of the Internet, my desire to buy sound carriers as CDs also dwindled. At the beginning of the CD Euphorie, many albums were only available in the new format. LPs were literally sold off in the relevant stores and entire pressing plants ended up on the scrap metal. LPs only became interesting again when the last one noticed that CDs are not the ultimate wisdom and on top of that also have an "expiry date", some of my regularly bought CDs are no longer playable. My old Woodstock LPs are still doing just fine. Ergo, there's nothing like an LP, as long as you handle it with care.
When I became interested in reggae in the mid-70s and read everything in print I could get my hands on on the subject, it was extremely difficult to buy the albums mentioned in literature. If anything, it was very expensive imports from England or my buddies with second-hand record stores, who always had a list of mine, called me. It often took months before I could finally hear the album I was looking for. There weren't any specialty stores, like those on almost every corner today. The first came in the mid-80s and often it was word of mouth or a tiny classified ad in the Musikexpress or sounds that drew attention to the mail-order shop. How much did I go back then to get a masterpiece by Lee Perry, King Tubby, Keith Hudson or Augustus Pablo and…. Today, a huge selection of all of this is just a click away.
Music on a PC is not the same as on a large system - true. That's why I plug my MP3 player with albums like "Jim The Boss - Dub In Hifi ”or“ Askan Vibes ”to my stereo system and so can at least enjoy the album in good quality. There are ways and means not to have to hear or burn everything on the PC. But there is always a bit of wastage, the cover art is missing, I can live with that. In any case, I would never have dreamed that one day my favorite mukke would be available in this immense number anytime and anywhere, and that I run the risk of losing interest due to an acoustic overkill. Yet it is not so far.
“Music on a PC is not the same as on a large system - that's right. That's why I plug my MP3 player with albums like "Jim The Boss - Dub In Hifi "or" Askan Vibes "to my stereo system and so I can enjoy the album in good quality"
I admit that I don't always hear that. Here at work or when music is just playing on the side, mp3s are enough. But when I inhale music, so to speak, or almost meditatively listen to it, I always notice that something is missing. Not just any instrument or something, there is basically enough bass too, but somehow it sounds a little noisy, although it doesn't rustle in the least. I would compare it to a delicious cake that still tastes pretty good but basically contains too much air. And that usually doesn't make you want the whole cake. And to know that this is, or could be, in top quality somewhere, makes me sick.
I repeat myself for the sixth time anyway - I'm sorry - but whenever I find a piece of music really good, I still want it - preferably - on vinyl. With the bonus tracks that they usually leave out. You just have to do a double LP if it doesn't fit on one disc. I also promise that I will not fold the panes from the "Black Magic Plastic" in the ocean if I can no longer use them.
mp3 is just a compromise and someone once said that compromise is just another word for defeat.
I want to have special treasures, to own, to touch and, if necessary, to lick them ...
In fact, there are people who love compressing music. There are also people who blemish their skin with tatoos. They don't even know what they're doing to me. But well, you can use the word “a matter of taste” to talk against it nicely.
I digress but "Dub In Hifi “would have earned more than data, caught in the network of ones and zeros.
Basically there could be a great symbiosis between computer and analogue reality. In the big network you look for the data that interests you, place an order and when there are enough interested parties, the matter goes to press.
"Two times three makes nine ... I'll make the world as I like it" (that would be nice) ............................................. lemmi
Lemmi, I agree with you 100%, the sound of an LP or an analogue tape can never be compared with digital sounds. If you can't hear it, you should definitely have a hearing test done.
I own a lot of reggae /Dub both on LP and CD, the LP undoubtedly has a much warmer, nicer sound. CDs sound kind of sterile, something is simply missing.
Back then in the CD euphoria, a lot of friends and acquaintances closed their LP collections and put them on CDs because of "the great handling" - I was fine, I bought like a madman. Today I don't know anyone who doesn't regret this decision and mourn their sweetheart.
Yo Ras Vorbei !
Thanks for your share name!
What I also find really uncomfortable is the feeling of being dependent on the computer. Ok, I am also dependent on EON, but what do I do if streaming no longer works at some point. Or if you also have to pay a CO2 tax on streaming. Not that I couldn't raise the money for it, but my guilty conscience would ruin the music again. If EON stops delivering, I'll just build a wind turbine on the roof, but if I can no longer receive the playlist from gtkritz, then a lot of them are awesome Dubs gone and that doesn't suit me at all.
Then maybe there is the "China Syndrome" and you get a point deduction from the Interior Minister if you do more Dub when Helene heard ...
So nothing against computers but slowly the part is becoming outrageously dominant. I don't want this part to want to say in almost every area of my life where it will go in the future.
Well, it doesn't matter, sometimes I think myself that I'm painting the devil too much on the wall …………… lemmi
I disagree with you. Most of the music today is produced digitally. Even if the instruments should be analog, they are still digitally recorded and processed (okay, not with Jim the Boss, but otherwise). So in order to hear the music unadulterated and absolutely original, you have to hear it “native”, and that means “digitally”. Preferably uncompressed, of course, so z. B. as .wav or Apple Lossless. Pressing the music on vinyl actually corresponds to compression, since vinyl has a smaller dynamic and a reduced sound spectrum - not to mention noise and crackling. Conclusion: uncompressed digital music has the objectively best sound. How we perceive music, however, has a lot to do with our expectations. Therefore it can of course sound better subjectively (!) On vinyl. But that's actually just a placebo effect.
That being said, streaming gives access to a universe of music that I could only dream of before. I totally enjoy immersing myself in this universe, researching music (and not just reggae and Dub) and make fascinating discoveries.
Also, streaming (or MP3) gives me the ability to listen to music in different places. Wherever I am, I can enjoy my music with good headphones. That is also a huge advantage.
My final argument would be the financial aspect: if I had to buy the music that I listen to via streaming, it would cost me a fortune. Since everyone else is streaming too, I could not save the industry with my vinyl purchases, but only ruin myself - or I would have to forego 70% of the music I consume.
Therefore: Jah-lob there is Spotify, Deezer, Apple Music & Co.
So, and now I'm curious what you can do about it ;-)
I would like to explain my somewhat pointed "Curse - Blessing" comment, because I was thinking in a slightly different direction from the comments that followed.
Specifically, I made the comparison between streaming platforms such as Spotify & co. meant to Bandcamp.
From the musician's point of view, I find Spotify difficult because the platform doesn't encourage active searching and finding. Your own music is discovered by chance at most. (Of course, also because we are more and more people and therefore also musicians in the world and the amount is no longer manageable, but that's just for the sake of completeness.) In addition, the remuneration is anything but noteworthy if you are not already known is. I imagine it to be similar with the Gema. Incidentally, as far as I know, Spotify is still not in the black after all these years, which in turn is probably one of the reasons why musicians cannot expect to make a living here today or tomorrow.
From the listener's point of view, I find Spotify stupid for the same reason: The platform is not designed so that I can “browse”, but rather is operated by algorithms. Of course you don't have to use it, but it invites you to do so and as a result the process of listening to music becomes a very passive form of consumption. Once you press play, you have made any decision and trust that the algorithm will serve you with any similar-sounding music that you don't experience in the context of a single, EP, LP, or anything else, but only as a single song. And how often you still listen carefully to discover new pearls and keep them, the platform doesn't care.
It is completely different with Bandcamp. In addition to a very detailed filter mechanism for discovering new music, you can usually hear whole sound carriers. When these are over, the music stops and you can decide again what you want to listen to. If you like the music, you can in many cases buy it at a pay-what-you-want tariff, which experience has shown encourages you to pay as much for music as it is worth to you. It's worth it for musicians even with just one song sold, usually more than 1000 plays on Spotify, not to mention the much less effort involved in publishing your own music there. With the relevant streaming services, this is only possible via third-party providers that are subject to a charge.
Since the quality was also discussed here: I have no idea what quality is offered by the streaming providers, possibly depending on the connection speed.
At Bandcamp you can of course always stream your purchased music, but you can also download it and choose between various lossless (uncompressed) formats. In addition, you “own” them again if that is important to you.
Since I publish music myself, both perspectives (musician and listener) are important to me and I feel that Bandcamp with its entire concept is a real ray of hope, now that Soundcloud is also increasingly switching to streaming services. I am glad not to be with Spotify & co. to publish, let alone hear.
And last but not least about the CD: It is really great compressed. Even the quality of a half-heartedly well compressed MP3 is better than what you can hear on CD's. Similar to DVD vs. BlueRay. The CD cannot therefore be a quality standard for “digital”.
High ed!
Your statement about the quality of CD, s threw me completely out of my orbit. That's why I checked the net again today and didn't come to any new knowledge there. Purchased CD's are called Flac or Wafe
File produced. I don't know now whether the term file is entirely correct in this context. In any case, the bit rate of purchased, professional Cd's is many times higher. Somebody burned me a CD as mp3 with about 50 discs on one CD. That sounds very poor on both good and bad systems, I have to say. I then ended up in a forum where all of my listening experiences were fully confirmed.
So, did I understand you completely wrong or is your statement about CD and mp3 sound - to put it mildly -
not correct ?
Nothing bad but I must have clarified that ………………. lemmi
Which means to say the least ... you are absolutely right. I shot too fast. Maybe (without wanting to justify myself) because I was a MiniDisc kid and haven't thought about CD's since the 90s, so I lumped the two together. MiniDiscs were compressed, at least until there was finally the HiMD. (But for me back then the better cassette, with recording, cutting, copying, naming, ...)
Thanks for the tip.
All right Ed!
Many thanks for your response. I'm back in orbit ;-)
Speaking of Ed:
Ed Rome also makes really "great" music. From Ska to Rocksteady to Reggae and Dub !!! I'm crazy about it!
Greetings …………… .. lemmi
Hello.
I don't know exactly what to think of spotify and Co., but have since given up my resistance and now actually use it every day. What makes the search there a lot easier for me is the use of tags when searching:
year: 1981 delivers everything that 9181 came onto the market
label: "pressure sounds" provides everything that is available from pressure sounds
etc. There is a nice summary, for example, at the good old sound spy: https://www.tonspion.de/news/spotify-suche-20-tipps-wie-du-mehr-musik-findest
You probably already know all of this. But that opened up whole new worlds for me at Spotify.
Have fun browsing! lauzelot
Hi Lauzelot, very good reference. Spotify is definitely cooler than Apple Music. But whoever has subscribed to the service from Cupertino does not have to go home empty-handed. This page allows you to search for releases by label and listen to them with one click in Apple Music: https://www.lbl.fm
Is maybe just a side note or I've lost the thread here too but "Dub In Hifi “I have personally had it in my playlist on Spotify since September 03.09.2019rd, XNUMX. I have probably "annexed" them to me from gtkriz ... .. it doesn't matter, in any case they are also available for steaming and streaming.
Greetings ……………… lemmy
School boy René ;-)
The link is okay, but I just entered Ed Rome. The answer was "no results found" ;-)
And my water-powered mill wheel is running at full speed ……………… .. lemmi
Greetings
“Today, a huge selection of all of this is just a click away.
In any case, I would never have dreamed that one day my favorite mukke would be available in this immense number anytime and anywhere ... "
These are two quotes from what I have already written above, exactly that, including the financial aspects, are the main arguments for streaming or Bandcamp. Bandcamp is also my music platform that I prefer the most. I can fully understand Ed's arguments.
Since my review of Chuck Foster, it should have emerged that I am still an ardent fan of the Grateful Dead (GD) hippie muck. There are over 3500 different recordings of the Grateful Dead, who have always allowed taping at their concerts, in the best soundboard quality on Archive.org. For the uninitiated, the GD never played! the same setlist, every concert was different, really every one. This band was so well-rehearsed and virtuoso that the length of a track could easily vary between 5 and 15 minutes. I would have that without the WWW. never heard of it, let alone that I put a fortune on those bootlegs.
Back to reggae, even there many would never have heard Burning Spears first tour through Germany in 1981 and his legendary Rockpalast appearance (Youtube). I saw him in Mannheim back then and it took forever until I was finally able to call the concert bootleg tape my own. Today it doesn't last a day, then the recording is on the web. available. It's a blessing! Very, very many artists, no matter what genre of music they would be in without the WWW. never became known to a wider public.
Now about vinyl, it may well be, I don't want to deny that a CD simply has more brilliance and therefore LP recordings that were already known sound different, or because listening habits are broken. Anything is possible, even if that may just be a “placebo effect”, I still prefer the LP subjectively.
That's it
Well, that turned out to be another nice discussion here.
Yes, yes, and yes again, you are right (grumble). It also has many advantages, there's no question about that.
Maybe I should go to the psycho doctor and ask why my insides are so reluctant to do it. The fact is that when I listen to music from the computer through my mixer and complete system at home, I have the feeling that the bass is "rustling". I can turn it in so hard until the walls shake and the fire brigade comes, but a certain perceived noise remains. Maybe just my mixer is too old or all of my equipment doesn't fit the computer ......
I understand all of your arguments but I cannot accept them yet. Maybe I'm just a tree that is too old and not easy to transplant. Although some of you are older than me.
The only (but not the last ...) thing that I could say in the first place would be the fact that the placebo effect is also very useful in medicine. If a tablet without an active ingredient and therefore also without side effects helps me like a pill from Bayer, with sometimes fatal side effects, then I prefer to take the placebo pill. And one thing doesn't seem to matter to you anymore and that is romance,
which comes over me again and again when you pull this black (sometimes colorful) plastic out of the case and then put it on the plate, let the needle slide gently into the groove and then surrender to the magic that music is transferable at all and that often as if the band were playing Live and Direct in the living room. I somehow develop a completely different relationship with the music. She is "felt" a part of me. The whole thing feels big and great. Maybe that's not healthy, but the music I have at home is like a favorite jacket that warms me and also gives me a certain identity. For example, if my windows were to flare, I would most likely have to go to the funny farm.
As I said, I would find it best if there were both. On the one hand there is the I-network, where you can find out about everything that interests you and when you have found a treasure, you should get it
also can buy. Yes you can buy it but somehow I don't have the feeling that it belongs to me. Somehow that's too anonymous for me. (If I write "somehow" again, I'll hit myself).
In addition, I come from the second row, so to speak. The seekers, that's you. I just let your tips go through my head and already have enough to do with them. Yes, of course I find a grain here and there, but your tips are what make me hot.
What I don't understand at all, where do you get all the time from? I guess the search has been going on all day. Then listen carefully and feel into it. Once you've checked out the new releases, you still need time for the good old records by Bob Marley and all the blessed Jamaican Allstars! I have to listen to all the old records every now and then, because the last ones can't be topped after all.
I am only human and humans are "creatures of habit". I admit that I have problems with too much innovation at once. Apparently I feel too comfortable in the current state, so that I don't feel like new things all the time.
But where is the next new one? DubTip? …………… .. lemmi