Papa Dee Meets The Jamaican Giants vs. Internal Dread: In Dub

Real life writes stories that couldn't be more dramatic in any script. Around seven years ago, the Swedish producer and sound engineer Tom Åke Hofwander aka Internal Dread, the King Tubby of Sweden, was killed in a tragic traffic accident in Denmark. The 58-year-old Swede fell out of the tour bus onto the motorway at full speed because he had apparently accidentally actuated an emergency switch so that the side door opened and he fell onto the road. At this point all the other band members were sleeping and the bus driver only noticed the unbelievable misfortune many kilometers later. So much for the accident reconstruction by the Danish police.

Internal Dread founded Rub A in Stockholm in 1987 Dub-Studios and the associated record label. His friend Dennis Bovell is said to have actively supported him with a few mixing tips. Internal Dread also stood as a live engineer for the Dub-Poeten Linton "Kwesi" Johnson and the Dennis Bovell Dub Band at the mixer at some concerts.

In 2008 Internal Dread released the album "Papa Dee Meets The Jamaican Giants" with Papa Dee. The "Jamaican Giants" are none other than the Roots Radics with Earl "Chinna" Smith (lead guitar), Errol "Flabba" Holt (bass) and Dwight Pickney (rhythm guitar), Leroy "Horsemouth" Wallace (drums), Robbie Lyn (keyboard) and Lloyd “Obeah” Benton (piano, organ). There are 10 tunes on the album, all (new) interpretations of reggae classics, originally by Gregory Isaacs, Dennis Brown, Errol Dunkley, Horace Andy and Jacob "Killer" Miller. One was already being built at this time Dub-Version of the above-mentioned album, which was only released 10 years later as "Papa Dee Meets The Jamaican Giants vs Internal Dread: In Dub”(Black Viking) should hit the market. Papa Dee and producer Kent Gillström have finally taken on the matter and released the long overdue album. The wait was definitely worth it and here, too, the saying applies: Better late than never! Internal Dread has that Dub-Album in classic old-school 70s-Dub-Style with warm grooves worth listening to and perfectly mixed. The well-presented Roots Radics deliver a usual heavy set carried by fat “Flabba” bass lines. Nevertheless, it seems to me as if Internal Dread with its captivating, loosely fluffy analog mix succeeded in giving the Roots Radics a warm, slightly lighter, uplifting sound. The echoes and sound effects of the album, which was released posthumously in 2019, are for me Internal Dreads final greetings from the afterlife.

RIP Tom Åke Hofwander aka Internal Dread and thanx for the music !!!

Rating: 4 out of 5.

20 replies to “Papa Dee Meets The Jamaican Giants vs. Internal Dread: In Dub"

My eyes were bigger than my mouth and my expectations of this pane were so big that I could only be disappointed. Well, I've had the record in my closet for over a year. Is of course not bad, but somehow it didn't leave a lasting impression on me. Sounds a little too lax to me. However, there is also this version of “One In A Billion” on it. For me, it stands out in a very positive way, especially since it also matches the version from Dub Syndicate can keep up, I think. Unfortunately all the others have me Dubs not as flashed here as “One In A Billion” but of course I “complain” here at “4 star level” and to check my opinion again, it will be published again this evening. In this case I think the vocal record is a lot better.
For me it is always very relaxing when people talk about discs that I have known for a long time and already own (I'm just an old colonialist, I have to own, otherwise I'm not satisfied), because then I don't feel that way exhausted because I don't have to go straight back to get the disk.
But the circumstances that led to the death of Internal Dread are really blatant, I have to say.
May his soul be where it would like to be ...... lemmi

Greetings Lemi,

what was the result of listening to the album. Has your mind changed or has it been confirmed? After all, Jamaica's number one bass player Flabba Holt is there.
Also, I can't help but get the impression that the Dubs occasionally bear Dennis Bovell's handwriting, which of course is more of a positive quality feature. It may be that I am wrong.

High Ras Vorbei !

Listening to the album again showed that at first I asked myself what I found so “lazy” about it. Well, as I said, the whole thing was "complaining" at a 4 star level. But precisely because Flabba is there and I found the vocal record really good, my expectations were probably too high. Here and there, I have something like that
like found a “justification approach” for my feeling and I think I often miss the hard, reverberant snare drum (“that always tingled so nicely in my navel”). Nothing against rimshots,
i like rimshots but i stand by Dub especially on the snare drum a la Style Scott! And there we have the second reason why this Dub - Slice a very cool little bit too slack - for my taste - is advisable. Style Scott is not there. Of course, this is only a miserable attempt to explain, because there are a lot of cool ones DubDiscs where Style Scott is not or was not there. The basslines are not necessarily the best from Flabba, but as I said, “4 stars” (!) Yes and my memory is not as bad as I always think myself. “One In A Billion” is and remains the best Dub on the disc. They probably felt that way too, and two of them Dubs made of. It probably took them two tries to get back to that Dub Syndicate to get close. But it still didn't quite work out.
All I can say about Dennis Bovell is that it's mine Dubs - for which he alone bears the main responsibility - always very well liked. In general, Dennis Bovell seems to me to be someone who has such a positive madness slumbering that I just love. The grimaces that he makes during live shows alone show this positive madness that it takes to really inspire me.
Ok, it's hard for me to describe why “Papa Dee In Dub“Doesn't knock me off my feet completely.
I'll try to explain it culinary. All the ingredients for my favorite dish are available. My favorite spices are also included. The cooking point is also right and yet I miss a tiny bit of chilli in the finish.

No matter what the lemmi say, this sound leads the way …………… thomas

hi lemmi,

thanks for the comments! I understand from your explanations that the album is good but not very good because it lacks a bit of “flavor”. The seasoning in the form of our highly revered Style Scott (RIP). You got that down to the common denominator. There is no question that Internal Dread was already a master of his trade who unfortunately had to die way too early, otherwise a wizard like Dennis Bovell would not have brought him to the mixer for his and LKJ's live concert.
Dennis Bovell's “handwriting” (see above) is also the wrong formulation, influence is probably more correct.

Dennis Bovell on bass with his Dub Band was a very nice concert, back then he still looked like the legendary pirate Blackbeard with a turban and not so cleanly shaven. The Dub The band was the opener for the LKJ concert that followed. Predicate "particularly valuable", both the whole concert and the lyrics by LKJ. Sonny's Lettah still flashes me today - goosebumps! Even today, the text has lost none of its explosiveness.

Finally, a few more albums that Internal Dread produced and mixed:
Internal Dread & the Reggaetarians - Dub Revolution
Internal Dread & the Reggaetarians - Dub Time
Iya Karna with The Wailers - Incarnation
Iya Karna - Revolution In Dub
Dubadown - Dubdown
Dubadown - Killing Us
Kultiration - Möter Internal Dread
Kultiration - Döden Föder Dub
and some albums from Zilversurf

Boah EY !
What a bunch of great reggae music!
I often ask myself, how do you always do it? Do you listen to music 25 hours a day?
Your suggestions from Internal Dread Productions are all "good stuff" without exception.
Most notably DubI like adown best. I consciously had never heard of it before.
Now there are “absurdities” on the table that I have all mentioned before.
Even this little list from you actually requires the greatest attention, but now I come back to the point of oversaturation. We've already had that one or two albums a year are released by a band or an artist or producer. You then BUY (!) And listen to them up and down until you know them. Then one or two years later comes the next one, etc.
And that's how it was with every artist or band you knew. In short, you had time
process the music. Now you come here with 8 (new) discs at once and I have just ordered 5 new discs again and haven't even heard the last 5 up and down. So there is so much music at the start in reggae alone that I don't understand why the rest of the world is looking for other music at all.
Here we have the curse and the blessing of the I-network again. On the one hand you can find out almost everything that interests you and on the other hand the wealth of information is no longer manageable. At least not for me anymore.
“More new news braek up my meditation” (Third World) is a line of text that is especially burned into my brain. Even if it can certainly have more meanings in a different context.
And then you write something about Linton Kwesi Johnson "by the way" !!! I have listened to his records many times in my life, but not often enough!
"Sonny`s Lettah", for example, is such a reggae tune, which for me is compulsory reading for every reggae
oh what am I saying - heard by every music fan. I don't even talk to reggae fans who don't know this tune or LKJ at all (serious joke dat). It would be as if an art lover had never seen a painting by Vincent van Gogh. And again and again you have the feeling, “the groundhog greets you every day” because so many reggae texts from 30 years ago could also be from today. And therefore I "close" with the familiar words of Linton Kwesi Johnson ...............

"We gonna smash the brains in, because they aint got nothing care ……."
"Fashists on the attack, mek we fight the back !!!"

I would have liked our military to come with a large helicopter at every fascist demonstration. Two gigantic speaker towers with bass boxes as big as an aircraft turbine from the A380 hang from it. And from this sound system you hear the lyrics of LKJ or Prince Far I “Come Down Skinhead Come Down” and vibrate the zombie turf of the fashos in the outaspace …….

So in spite of everything Ras Vorbei, I thank you for the good tips and I'll check whether you can buy the music or whether I just borrow the music. First of all comes first Dubadown to the playlist, where I have all my borrowed music in there.

Ok, bye first …………. lemmi

greetings lemmi,

I'm pleased that my tips meet with your approval, and hopefully not only with your approval. I am always thrilled that the music of a small Caribbean island from New Zealand to the North Cape has conquered the world. That's a clear proof of the power of this sound / riddim.

When LKJ wrote these - unfortunately still current - texts, the National Front in England with its fascist views was already a real problem, not to forget the SUS law, which gave every police officer the license to stop "suspected persons" "Felt" and arrest. People with dreadlocks had lost there. Basically nothing has changed and the fascos are more present and dangerous than ever in all of Europe.

And last but not least a current album:
Papa Dee Meets First Light - Showcase LP Vol 1

All tracks recorded and mixed by Jonathan 'Prentice' Sandberg at Rub A Dub Studio, Stockholm Sweden.
No longer mastered by Internal Dread, but recorded and mixed in his studio.

"Papa Dee Meets First Light - Showcase LP Vol 1"

I have been for a while. Mmmh yes, First Light is great, I also like Papa Dee very much, but both together didn't quite meet my expectations.
Yes, I see it, I am "sometimes" a little difficult. If I didn't already have and knew so much reggae, I would probably have a different feeling about the record, but that's how it works for me - even if it sounds harsh - it also ran under …… That sounds like I'm currently feeling extremely full Symptoms of constipation but I try to make my little problem a bit clearer.
At the moment - at the very special hours in my life - the "Live at The Counter Eurovision" (Misty In Roots) is often on my plate for musical enjoyment. Then I always pack the "Live Over Sweeden" !!! I then hear the A-side of both of them, which fits exactly, since the best tunes of the respective disc are on the A-side. I'm not saying that's my opinion, it's just the way it is ;-)
Ok, "it doesn't quite work out", as there are two other tunes that you have to add to the back.
Why am I telling all this again in so much detail? Now. For me these are the little details in my life that make the salt in the soup. The feelings and enthusiasm that these live records trigger in me cannot be reached by a Papa Dee, even if it is with First Light.
Misty In Roots = ecstasy !!! (at least with me)
Basically, I'm at a point where I don't need any new reggae, but somehow I'm also like an obsessed surfer who is plagued by the fear of missing the wave of my life. That's why I still take part in the hunt for the tune or Dub of my life. From my mind I already know that I already do a lot of tunes and Dubs of my life but I don't always like to listen to my mind that much.

So nothing against "Papa Dee Meets First Light - Showcase LP Vol 1" but (for example) Misty In Roots behind the seven mountains with the seven dwarfs ……………. there is my Mount Zion!

"Rub A Rub Style Rule All The While" ……………… .lemmi

There is almost nothing that can be put against "Misty - Live". A band rarely manages such a coup, perhaps ASWAD - Live & Direct. With the mentioned concert recordings of Misty from 1979 everything is really right, Misty could unfortunately never achieve this super quality even though I also like her studio albums.
That was just Reggaes Belle Epoque, generally not that many albums made it to Germany and you had all the time in the world to listen to the newly bought albums in peace. Today we have a flood of really very good (roots) albums but almost no time left to keep up. I would have been happy about a fraction of these albums in the 70s and 80s and they would certainly have received the respect and my absolute appreciation that they deserve. Now we have our finger on the pulse, but we are downright overfed.

Even at the risk of oversaturation, I still add two showcase recommendations for everyone Dubblog readers, who are available for free at Bandcamp or

I Fi Meets Askan Vibes - Well Conscious (ODGP274)
published on October 14.10.2019, XNUMX

Imanytree Meets Askan Vibes - Inna Old Fashioned Stylee
published on October 22.10.2019, XNUMX

Imanytree Meets Askan Vibes - Inna Old Fashioned Stylee
was already on 22.10.2018/XNUMX/XNUMX! released

Interesting that you also mention the “Live and Direct” from ASWAD. Some things really have nothing to do with opinion. You are just like that! But I would also like to mention that Burning Spear and Bob Marley also delivered such coups from my point of view. Yes and actually also STEEL PULSE and not to forget,
BLACK UHURU (Tear It Up). LKJ has a great live DVD and I JAH Man and… .. ok, the horse is going away with me again ……….
And you're right, Misty In Roots haven't reached out to themselves either. I've been to some “Good Vibes” concerts, but I've always lacked the aggressiveness. Just this “Rub A Dub Style ”on“ See dem a come ”and then the Dub … .. that's it man !!!
There is such a concert recording from the last Rototom, there they are at least a bit VEX again!

So now I turn back to the tasks that you have given here again.

Until ………… .. lemmi

Askan Vibes from Paris is a studio project whose predilection for roots reggae & Dub obviously goes back to the already often mentioned 70s. He is a multi-instrumentalist and composes the riddims himself in his own "Vineyard Studio" !? The riddims - some of them seem pretty familiar to me - he then has various singers provide with lyrics, the overdubThen he does it alone. The productions are then released on the label Vinyard Records, which he founded. Askan Vibes also works with other labels and artists, including Roberto Sanchez (Lone Ark).
The French don't just make steppers, these are strikkly roots

It's definitely great music too!
But I'm so sorry that I have something to complain about again. As you already said, the riddims “all” are not brand new from the artist cosmos. But in principle I have nothing against that, as long as there are great riddims again like here. On "Inna Old Fashion Style" the CussCuss is of course my high lite again. Especially the one Dub with this beautiful dubbigen guitar is my thing!
“Well Consciuos” is ultimately the reason why I have to throw in a few “bad vibes” again.
Not because the music is not good enough in any form, but quite the opposite!
The first tune is clearly “Streets Of Glory” by Israel Vibration! Also here I like this version very much ……… The only problem is, the “Streets Of Glory” - like the whole album by Israel Vibration - FOR ME !!! belongs to the best of the best of the best of all time. So I can of course listen to the Askan Vibes version at any time, but it wouldn't have been necessary for me because neither the sound nor the vocals have improved. That is not to be understood as criticism either, but it was and is simply impossible to improve the sound and the vocals of "Same Song". For me it is the completion of creation!

Cheers …………. lemmi

woah lemmi,

those are the albums from the 70s that make my eyes light up, it's balm for the soul and ears. At that time Israel Vibration was only available as a top ranking Jamaica Pressing, possibly still miss-labeled. Whoever owned this album at the time was the hero of the tent in reggae circles. It was even more difficult that Dubs to get. Same Song and Unconquered People plus Dubs, are definitely one of the absolute highlights of Conscious Reggae.
Almost everything that came out of Kingston's studios back then is and will remain so for ever, simply world class. Anyone who is / has not been infected by this sound is deaf. Sorry, is so ...

Stay tuned ...

Ok ras Vorbei,

I like the subject too much now to end it.

I must have been lucky because I have no Jamaica pressing of the "Same Song". I think mine is even from Island Records. It has a punch that is second to none. In addition, the Roots Radics even recorded very special, exclusive riddims for Israel Vibration. The guys from Israel Vibration attached great importance to this, as I read in the Riddim a dozen years ago. Probably no new information for you anyway ;-).
For the riddims on "Same Song" there are no words in the entire global language pool that I could use to even begin to portray my enthusiasm for them. All superlatives would not be enough…. So I don't try it any further now.
I inherited a Jamaica pressing from the “Unconquered People”. It also has a lot of oomph, but drags, here and there, but quite and cracks and creaks at all corners and edges. I've always been able to do without that.
I now have all of these works together with the Dubs as so-called deluxe versions on CD. In this respect, my satisfaction has reached the maximum.
Unfortunately they broke up with Appel Gabriel (or the other way around?) And since then there have always been very good records out, but I miss that very much. The last two discs didn't interest me at all. And even live everything is just a shadow from times long past.
The Roots Radics also cast a long shadow. But I don't want to criticize that at all, because unfortunately it is the case that you don't get any younger in life and “shitty” you have to die. The Roots Radics haven't been with their original line-up for a long time. It's just ... .. sobbing.

“Almost everything that came out of Kingston's studios back then is and will remain so for ever, simply world class. Anyone who is / has not been infected by this sound is deaf. Sorry, is so ... "

I see almost exactly the same way. I would just swap the word “deaf” for “frigid”.

That's why I developed a certain arrogance towards the so-called mainstream, for whom it was more and more important that the car was also properly lowered and that the tires were not less than the width of a steamroller. Nowadays there has to be an Alexa standing around on the table and of course the SUV must not be missing. Add to that loud puberty music from little girls rumbling around a la atomic breasts and …… .. ok ok I'm upset again… ..

Stand firm ……………… lemmi (to be honest, I think it's not bad either ;-))

Nice that I can correct that myself.

That seemed strange to me yesterday, because I couldn't really imagine that the "Same Song" was also recorded with the Roots Radics. Lo and behold, on the album cover there are mainly Sly and Robbie at the start and some from the later taxi gang (e.g. Robbie "Lynnn") whereby Fully Fullwood alternates with Robbie on bass and Sly Dunbar can be replaced by other drummers . So basically everyone else except the Roots Radics.
Well, anyway, the best of the time were there and they also had a supernova in terms of great moment.
It's not Island Records either, but ……………… (I've already forgotten).

“All right so far?!” …………………… lemmi

"Isn't Island Records either ..."

hi lemmi,
It's no wonder, the album turned 27! times published, who should still see through there.
The Roots Radics were founded sometime in 1978, that didn't leave you alone ...

Incidentally, I also checked yesterday, the musicians involved in the recordings really read like the "who is who" of reggae, everything is represented that was really well known at the time. Funny: Dean Fraser was nicknamed "Youth Sax". Channel One was the recording studio and the Dubs were mixed by Errol Brown. That could hardly fail.

For me the reunion of Israel Vibration and the LP “Strength Of My Live” as well as the Binghi song of the same name were a real highlight in 1988.

We're off topic again ... what the heck, with such pearls

"We're off topic again ... what the hell, with such pearls"

Reggae is rebel music and its fans are rebels too. All too strict regulations can slip under the carpet. I don't know how it feels in the heart of René when we "change lanes" so often but in the end he is also a rebel ;-) and should therefore understand our universal
interpretation of Dub-Have topics. And so far he hasn't complained either ;-)
With that in mind, I'll go on a little further.
"Strength Of My Live" is also a wonderful record ... I still trumpet "Perfect Love And Understanding" quite often to this day. Oh Ras Vorbei, What more can I say ? .... Israel vibration was (and is) simply an asset to my life. You are definitely one of the many reasons I love life so much. I know a punk who always raved about "Smack Right Jam" and I didn't know what he was talking about for a long time. When I got to know the Tune at some point, I knew why he raved so much.
I could drift away even further and talk about the great quality of punks that make reggae
yes also were and are quite inclined. But I'll leave that out now.
Anyway, I have a great one too Dub Slice from the Bad Brains. But I'm not sure if it was a punk band. But it doesn't really interest me either, because even if the punks have a certain sympathy for reggae, it doesn't work the other way around for me. I like the aggressiveness and also the power of punk (music) but I just can't get along with the groove of punk at all.

"Papa Dee", "Internal Dread", "Flabba Holt", "Roots Radics", "Israel Vibration", Bad Brains, Punk, etc ... ..
There's a lot of chaos in my pear ……. how am I supposed to stay on the topic ?!

Maybe Phliip Greter's record "Logical Chaos", which I have "OWNED" for a few days, will help me !!! He actually managed to release the great music on a disc. Respect and thank you for that !!!
So far I've only streamed it two or three times, but that's not good for my carbon footprint.
(They even manage to get a guilty conscience when listening to music, but if you are no longer allowed to listen to music on our planet, then it can go under for my sake ...)

Yes ………. should I give my opinion on the Turkey offensive ……… .. ;-) ……………. lemmi

"... I also have a great one Dub Disc from the Bad Brains "...

I'll go from “I & I Survived Dub“Off - nice part!
Matching “Bad Brains - In Dub conducted by No Hatred There “.
Yes, the liaison with punk was even performed by Lee Scratch Perry, after all he produced Clash's "Police & Thieves". I still don't like the version. LSP was also involved in Bob Marley's "Punky Reggae Party". “Ian Dury feat. Sly & Robbie - Lord Upminister "
Punk and reggae have often given concerts together, even Misty had no fear of contact. That's right, the basic attitude of punk was uprising, rebellion, resistance, anarchy ... So they also had something in common with reggae.
Punk music, I'm completely with you, is mostly just aggressive noise for me too.

Back to Bad Brains, I saw HR (Paul D. Hudson) live shortly after the separation from the Bad Brains - it must have been in the late 80s - and with the best of intentions I couldn't imagine what would happen to me at the concert. Back then, thanks to Ras Michael, the Rastafarian spirit must have hit him. It was one of the most impressive concerts I have ever seen. This is how I imagine an original Grounation from Count Ossie & Friends. Judging by the confused faces of the audience, nobody had expected such a performance. That's life. Unforgettable!

Dear René, albeit off topic, but at least we are writing something here and at least (mainly) about it Dub/Reggae

Hehe sorry! but I still have one, to go with the perplexed faces.

I had that in Cologne (canteen) at Sinead O Connor with Sly and Robbie. The only ones who knew what was going on were my buddy and me. Delicious !

So, now it's really PARTY EVENING with the special emphasis on celebration or Fyaaaaaahhh !!! ……………… .. lemmi

[…] Ah… wonderful! Again one Dub-Counterpart to a vocal release - as it should be, I mean. One thing depends on the other and in general: One foot can't run. So I'm presenting “Sir Pinkerton Investigates Another Murder in Red Hut Studio” - that Dub-Album for Papa Dee's last year, rather simply named "The Red Hut Sessions" release. The anticipation was great on my part, there was already a very nice vocal from Papa Dee /Dub-Combination that has a somewhat weird appearance history, but was convincing across the board: "Papa Dee Meets the Jamaican Giants" and "Papa Dee Meets the Jamaican Giants vs. Internal Dread: In Dub". [...]

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