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Rudebwai Stailee: Bassline Confidential

So now the time has come: The first reggae instrumental albums by an artificial intelligence are here. It had to happen at some point. I just didn't expect it to happen now. A Sleng Teng moment? Hardly, because the three albums "Roots Rock Steady","Rhythms of the Grove" and "Bassline Confidential", all by Rudebwai Stailee, have received little attention so far. And yet it is a significant development, because just as the studio musicians were replaced by computer technology in Sleng Teng, the same is now happening with the composers and producers. The music is created automatically on the basis of a short beeping or "prompt". In any case, my experience with generative artificial intelligence in the field of images has taught me that AI not only works almost perfectly in terms of image technology, but can also be incredibly creative. What works with images and text must also be possible with music - and in principle it is, as Rudebwai Stailee proves.

Well, what do we do with it now? Somehow, listening to an AI album creates mixed feelings. On the one hand, there is the fascination that it is even possible. The fact that the pieces are created with almost no human intervention and still sound pretty good is incredible. On the other hand, there is this unease that the music has no author. No artist, no (real) producer, no one who uses Logic Pro, let alone plays a real instrument. Which, by the way, puts the music in the public domain. There is no copyright, anyone can use it freely. But why does the non-existence of authorship create unease? Why is it not really fun to listen to an AI reggae album?

Basically, I am convinced that knowledge of the process by which music is created can be very informative and can also influence the reception of music, but it must not influence the assessment of the quality of music. What matters is "what comes out at the end". That is all that counts. And I have to say that the three AI albums are quite okay. The rhythms are definitely very solid, as is the mix. Only the lead instruments and the solos sometimes sound a bit off. And the whole thing might sound a bit monotonous. But that's where we get to prejudices and cognitive distortions. Does it sound monotonous because I whitethat a machine was at work here and not a human? Or is it even hurt vanity because no one really made the effort to create the music that I am devoting my time to listening to carefully? Can I enjoy music - if there is no artist who cares about me as a listener? If there is no one who wants to please me, who is trying to make me happy, who, ideally, has something to say to me? In short: Can I enjoy and appreciate music if there is no artist personality behind it? Strangely enough, this is not a problem with an idyllic landscape. There is no artist personality behind it either, and yet I enjoy and appreciate it fervently. The same applies to other natural beauties. How fascinating is the sight of some plants or animals that are also not the work of an artist. Why should it be any different with music, painting or - in the future - film? Perhaps a really good AI will manage to compose only good music in the future. All killer, no filler! What could be wrong with that?

The situation is strikingly reminiscent of the refusal of nineteenth-century society to recognize photography, invented in 1839, as art. The arguments were the same as today with regard to AI: the photographic image is the work of a machine, there is no human creator, which is why it cannot be art. Today, of course, we see things very differently, but only because we have discovered that a photograph is by no means just the product of a machine. We have brought humans back into play through the back door, as the ones who select the motif, determine the section of the world that the photograph shows, and make numerous other creative decisions. This strategy may no longer be quite so simple in the face of artificial intelligence. Sure, the prompt is currently still written by someone. But only a minimal creative act is required - and even that will probably become obsolete in the future if the AI ​​algorithm simply adapts to the preferences of the user. z. B. oriented towards listeners.

Well, dear Dub-Fans, you see me at a loss. But I tend to believe that the artist's disappearance is only irritating because we are used to it being different. This is a radical break with an important convention, namely the way we understand and receive art and culture. My prediction would be: in five years, no one will care whether music is made by people or generated by AI. A bold thesis: perhaps in 10 years there will be no more streaming of pre-produced content. The music we will hear will then be generated for us in real time - according to our preferences. A horror scenario? Write to me and tell me what you think.

Okay, finally a few words on the actual topic of this review: “Roots Rock Steady” is an acceptable instrumental album. The rhythms have oomph, the basses rock, there are real melodies and the whole arrangement is very solid. There is even a real mix, the sound is powerful and the instruments sound real. What I don’t like: The generated tracks sound, yes, there is no other way to say it: a bit generic. They are too repetitive. A bit more variety and tonal complexity would be nice. The lead instruments also don’t sound very natural. The same goes for “Rhythms of the Grove”. Overall, the pieces here seem a bit more rootsy and varied. The most recent work, “Bassline Confidential”, sounds like 80s reggae. There are solid backings in the background and a lead instrument in the foreground. Overall, too monotonous and therefore a bit boring. Yes, if I were evil, I would write: Reminds me of Dean Fraser's instrumental albums – only without the saxophone.

But hey, remember that these are the first steps of AI. Think about it five years from now and you'll know what to expect.

Rating: 3 out of 5.

9 Responses to “Rudebwai Stailee: Bassline Confidential”

“Mhm, so now it’s happened…”
And there is already a bias in that sentence.

I'm wondering what would have happened if I had listened to the albums without reading the reviews first. Would I have noticed anything?

I don't know yet if I will have the motivation to listen. Dubiversum still has so many beautiful human-generated sounds (both old and new) that I'm not necessarily longing for new experiments. But maybe that will come. You should always be open and give new things space. But the step towards completely generated sound could actually be as boring as a visit to a fast food restaurant.

I'm curious whether the topic will generate as many comments as the Groundation album. It has potential ;-)

Greetings!!!

An almost philosophical review, what a pleasure to read... and yes, should I open myself up to new things or should I remain skeptical and conservative? At the moment I just want to consume man-made music. I want to be able to discover real stories behind it, I want to understand concepts and thought processes, discover references that a person has made consciously and intentionally. I prefer a cover that has something to it and I want repetition (e.g. playing a record x number of times)... so I'm horrified by the instant streaming mentioned, which covers exactly my entered needs and gives me exactly what I supposedly want, almost live... horrible idea! I also want to complain and not like something... And the energy that this AI would consume if everyone suddenly listened to this kind of music? Completely useless...
I am not ready for that and am currently staying away from such sound (and hereby demand a declaration requirement from now on!).
I'm humanly tired and I'm going to go, you know where...

AI or not, even if I didn't know they weren't created by an algorithm, I find them to be bland and generic. The descriptions don't match. There's nothing vintage or classic about them nor are the genres or grooves they go for are similar. They sound very modern. Any trained ear would recognize.

AI or KI or not?
First of all, I have to give Philipp a little scolding ;-) I don't mean it in a bad way, Philipp, but I would have been much more interested in how I would have felt about the AI ​​music if you hadn't "spoiled" us. On the other hand, you may have saved us from praising an AI album too much, because the first impression more than just blew some people away, given the form they were in on the day. So no scolding from me after all ;-)
So let’s get back on the same page, or we can remain “friends”, because I also find René’s review downright philosophical.
The total length and the number of words alone show that René is also reaching his limits and has to fight an internal battle. It remains unclear who will win. Now he knows why my comments are always so long ;-) That's because of my constant battle with my ideas versus reality ;-)
Well, I don't even know where to start. Should I start with my big conspiracy theory or should I try to remain somewhat rational? "Time will tell"...
I will not name any names now, but I have had the feeling for a long time that at least in the general radio music and also in the SteppaDub the music was programmed by robots. And you don't have to wait another 5 years to find people who don't care where the music comes from. The mobile phone generation in particular doesn't care about sound at all, when I think about the shrill sound garbage they played to each other (without headphones, mind you). I think they are mainly interested in the lyrics and still dance to them. And as I wrote spontaneously, I have to
“BassLine Confidential” right away. But I also never had that really magical feeling that I get with so many Dubs from the past. However, I don't get this feeling automatically when I listen to hand-played music. So I have no choice but to listen to the music as unbiased as possible and then pay attention to my inner feelings. Just like I've always done. If it hits me, I won't feel any pain... if it grooves, it grooves and that's it. But now it's also the case that I don't really need any new music. I have the (in my opinion) best reggae and Dub albums at home on vinyl or at least on CD. Just to listen to all these albums so often that they come out of my ears would take me at least 10.000 years. I don't need any more new music. I am mainly here in the DubBlog because I'm paranoid about missing the absolute and perfect bass wave. If you know what I mean?!
Well, up until now, the wave forecast has always been excellent. But if in the future the waves are only generated in the wave pool, they are still waves that can be fun, but they simply cannot compete with the waves in the Atlantic, because the natural experience will always be missing. Since then, we know nothing other than wave pools and don't even know how to spell Atlantic. Then of course wave pools are great and the same goes for streaming AI data. In the "computer world" you have long been able to use music and also DubMusic is more than just fattened up and, in my opinion, the exclusivity of our favorite music is pretty much lost. Even if it doesn't harm the quality that much, the quantity alone is pretty "off-putting." So if only AI music is produced, I don't care at all, because I am firmly convinced that for my taste there can never be better riddims than the original riddims from Jamaica!!! Of course, any AI can copy that, that is what is used in reggae and Dub “Industry” has always done that anyway.
I may have to add more parts as I'm running out of time again, but one thing is still very important to me. Even if I make a mistake (which has never happened before),
I do not believe that an AI will ever have something like a soul. And therefore it is also impossible to have such a good and, above all, extremely inventive and unique soul as that of
ADRIAN SHERWOOD. Especially not with ones and zeros!!!
I would find it quite interesting if you did not mention who or what the music is from in the future. That would certainly continue to limit our ability to judge. But I think I will be on the safe side in the future with every new Dubproduct so that you do not notice that I do not have absolute pitch
have ;-)
I feel particularly sorry for the many musicians and, if I'm not mistaken, there will soon be no more live concerts. And that's no problem for the "New Kids On The Phone" either!
They've been standing there like idiots in front of a guy like Detlev Getter for a long time anyway, staring at him. Every now and then they show their hands and believe that they've experienced something great...

Yes, it's fine... I'm already gone... lemmi

"A bold thesis: Maybe in 10 years there will be no more streaming of pre-produced content. The music we will hear will then be generated for us in real time - according to our preferences. A horror scenario? Write to me and tell me what you think."

Certainly not a horror scenario! Because I am firmly convinced that in 10 years at the latest we will be battling with a horrific climate. I don't know exactly, but I believe that organic life will soon no longer be possible in large parts of Africa. And for a time in Europe and the rest of the world too.
I don't think that has anything to do with all the streaming, because the climate is changing drastically towards heat-madness anyway. A little "snarky" subordinate clause is necessary now ;-)
Just because the Mayan calendar (or was it the Aztecs?) 2012
ends, since they were already able to calculate that the sun will “make life hell” for us from about 2012 onwards and that this is generally considered the
Even though it was interpreted as the end of the world, which did not happen on the day predicted, that does not mean that we are not already in the end of the world. It is human megalomania that we ourselves are supposedly responsible for global warming. Stop! I would not mind if you labeled me as a nutcase because of this, if you have not already done so. I consider myself a nutcase and I am proud of it! So what else could shock me or possibly bring me down from my imaginary throne? But I would prefer it if you did it gently.
with unequivocal facts that I am completely on the wrong track. Maybe I will go from being a nutcase to being a realist after all?! I must say, however, that global warming tables and other "facts" that claim to show a connection between our human and animal behavior (cows produce methane and all oceans produce methane, which contributes greatly to the "thickening" of the atmosphere) are just a drop in the ocean for me. Maybe I am just narrow-minded and simply not able to recognize reality. That may all be true, but with everything that is being said and with "everything" that has really been done and is being done to "save the climate", even the most gullible person should realize that the puppets of the financial dictatorship (the governments of the world) have so far done nothing (Nekesse Nada Nothing).
CERTAINLY! to eliminate or at least minimize the so-called climate killers. But that is exactly what they should do, because laws and regulations are needed so that everyone adheres to the measures that help. Always hearing from Illner and the like, "WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING" bores me to death. It is pointless if today I ride a bike and tomorrow you or someone else does. That barely outweighs the fart of a single cow. No, we need flight bans, work bans, (streaming bans) car bans and so on and so forth. But then Goldman Sax and the like will go down the drain ………………………
(No time left, if I am not there tomorrow, I will definitely be sitting in some chair at Goldman Sax, but not in the executive suite, but in a branch in “Guantanamera”
or something like that..... )

So long ……………… .. lemmi

Hello, first of all, thank you very much for this "interesting" discovery, I have been waiting for it for a long time... I have been thinking about AI music for a long time and now with new releases I always think about what makes them "human" and how much creativity they contain. Lemmi also wrote under a release that it could also come from an AI (Kai dub or so?).
Every new development has its advantages and disadvantages. Chat GPT helps me immensely, for example, when formulating texts or asking about certain things. It is a very helpful tool. But nothing more (yet). In your review you write "AI can be incredibly creative". I would disagree with that. If you ask ChatGPT what is creative, the answer is: "Creativity is the ability to develop new and original ideas, concepts or solutions. It involves thinking beyond conventional boundaries and combining seemingly unrelated elements to create something unique or innovative." AI accesses a huge arsenal of data and adds the next best thing to the previous one. It will never create "something new". Therefore, it can "only" create mediocrity. But let's be honest, people also just copy sounds and don't add anything new. But there is always a need for people who really create something new. In music: their own sound, a further development. I'm a little happy because musicians and artists are generally seen as "creative". They are the first to face competition from AI. Mathematicians/computer scientists like me are not really seen as creative. Current developments show that this is not true. We are incredibly creative ;) AI will not be able to replace us in the foreseeable future (nor real musicians).
Bassline Confidential isn't bad, even if it gets a bit boring after a few tracks. At least the AI ​​doesn't want any money and I can use it in YouTube videos, as far as I understand, even in monetized videos. The music is definitely a lot better than what is currently available in royalty-free music databases if you're looking for instrumental reggae/dub .
So it has something good:) Where it could still improve are dub effects. They can only be heard in False Arrest and I find the reverb effects a bit pathetic. Perhaps there are still too few in the music databases like Spotify dub? I'm excited for the next releases from KI:) The one drop? part at the end is really sweet though :D Maybe you just have to say on the prompt that you want more echo and reverb.
Apart from YouTube videos, you can of course ask yourself whether you really need them. Making music is fun and new technologies should really take away the things that aren't fun.
As an artist, it's obviously not a cool feeling to upload your music to Spotify or similar and know that you're feeding an AI.

“Making music is fun and new technologies should take away the things that aren’t fun.”

This sentence should actually speak to my soul, and not just to me.

I could write another essay about it. But I will just say very briefly that unfortunately that is not what is wanted.
I am not an engineer but I had to
Make some technical drawings. First with a pencil, ruler and compass and then again with ink, “paint” or trace exactly and beware if you don’t get the corners exactly right! Then use a razor blade to correct the “botch” somewhat.
correct and if you even "misconstructed" it was really brutal. Then entire lines and curves had to be completely "shaved off". In comparison, constructing and drawing with a CAD program on the computer is a relief, even a revelation. For me, this is the only legitimization of a computer so far - apart from the DubBlog ;-)
OK, my horizon is very limited and I admit that there are many jobs where the computer is a relief.
Now it would of course be very nice if all of this would also be of use to us in the sense that we would have the weekend again on Monday afternoon, because we would, for example, have a design or just the drawing ready by Monday lunchtime at the latest, which would otherwise have taken us a week or more.
Hehe... yes “friends”... I can be Chancellor, I just don’t have enough followers.
Ok, before this becomes a whole essay again, I wish you a nice day.

Greetings ………………… lemmi

I am pleased that this review is now generating some reactions. A brief interjection to the statement by duborigini that AI cannot be creative. I am of the opinion that it can certainly be creative. However, I have to admit that Chat GPT mostly disappointed me in this regard. The image generator AI Midjourney is completely different. Here we had some pretty creative motifs generated (admittedly with "creative" prompts). As a small example: my agency colleagues as AI creations https://oktober.de/kitchenstories/

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Soulless music, I'm completely out of it. And if it ever gets to the point where AI dominates the music market, then I'll have enough music that's made by real, capable musicians who know their craft. I find AI-generated music superfluous.

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